DO 2010 Photo Thread.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:20 am

Arkillian wrote:

Des wrote:

Oh, we might try this printer that was recommended by ProjectNabe.

I don't know the specifics yet, but they're going out of their way to provide us with the details when they get around to printing off some stuff for Armaggeddon. They're very kind =)

Oooh- do pass on the info and I'll see how their prices are Smile

I would like to have my stuff printed on some nice card. I dont' know much about printing paper expect weights and finishes >.>

Sure thing.

I don't think there really is all that much more we need to know besides weight and finishes. So if you got that down already, you're set to roll lol.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:25 am

Sweet

I hope I do know most of it cause printers talk in a different language with bleeds and bindings and SLRs and stuff >.< I just raise my hands and go "Make it so!" XD

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Was there a Sword of Sin book this year?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:57 am

Arkillian wrote:

Sweet

I hope I do know most of it cause printers talk in a different language with bleeds and bindings and SLRs and stuff >.< I just raise my hands and go "Make it so!" XD

Haha if you know what they all mean, it should be pretty straight forward. There's no a whole lot to it really.

Might pay to know a little about InDesign as well, though (if you haven't already, that is); since these printers sometimes request for a package file instead of just straight PDF. It's a great program for making books as well, given it doesn't... ugh, bad memories. i'll stop there.

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@Cyberkun: Nope, maybe next year ;d. You'll have to ask Pillarz.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:54 am

Des wrote:

Arkillian wrote:

Sweet

I hope I do know most of it cause printers talk in a different language with bleeds and bindings and SLRs and stuff >.< I just raise my hands and go "Make it so!" XD

Haha if you know what they all mean, it should be pretty straight forward. There's no a whole lot to it really.

Might pay to know a little about InDesign as well, though (if you haven't already, that is); since these printers sometimes request for a package file instead of just straight PDF. It's a great program for making books as well, given it doesn't... ugh, bad memories. i'll stop there.

I have In Design. Is it hard to learn? ^^; Like... is it easier than illustrator? Cause illustrator is a b@#$% to learn >.< It'd help me understand the printing process better too Smile

I don't get the SWOPs and stuff mostly. That's where I get lost. Their file transferal process. I think it's the colour language the printer gets >.>

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:38 pm

Arkillian wrote:

Des wrote:

Arkillian wrote:

Sweet

I hope I do know most of it cause printers talk in a different language with bleeds and bindings and SLRs and stuff >.< I just raise my hands and go "Make it so!" XD

Haha if you know what they all mean, it should be pretty straight forward. There's no a whole lot to it really.

Might pay to know a little about InDesign as well, though (if you haven't already, that is); since these printers sometimes request for a package file instead of just straight PDF. It's a great program for making books as well, given it doesn't... ugh, bad memories. i'll stop there.

I have In Design. Is it hard to learn? ^^; Like... is it easier than illustrator? Cause illustrator is a b@#$% to learn >.< It'd help me understand the printing process better too Smile

I don't get the SWOPs and stuff mostly. That's where I get lost. Their file transferal process. I think it's the colour language the printer gets >.>

InDesign is not too hard to use, but require you to spend some times to familiar with it. It has similar interface as Illustrator, but more oriented to do desktop publishing.

InDesign file tends to be big. If the print shop has InDesign installed, they should be able to do changes on your PDF files. Anyway, it's always good to ask what file format the print shop prefers before you send your stuff for output.

About the jargons, you could ask the print shop people what they are.
(Of course, you could ask NukeBloodAxe to give you more detailed insights)

One of the important jargons you need to know is the bleeding.
It's the area to be cut away. You will meet this term often when you do book or poster printing, especially when you aim to print certain picture completely on the desired page. What the print shop does is that they scale up the image a bit so that small amount of your pictures will be left in the bleeding areas. After printing and cutting away the bleeding parts, you will have your desired pictured printed perfectly (ie. no white border).

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:27 pm

Arkillian wrote:

Des wrote:

Arkillian wrote:

Sweet

I hope I do know most of it cause printers talk in a different language with bleeds and bindings and SLRs and stuff >.< I just raise my hands and go "Make it so!" XD

Haha if you know what they all mean, it should be pretty straight forward. There's no a whole lot to it really.

Might pay to know a little about InDesign as well, though (if you haven't already, that is); since these printers sometimes request for a package file instead of just straight PDF. It's a great program for making books as well, given it doesn't... ugh, bad memories. i'll stop there.

I have In Design. Is it hard to learn? ^^; Like... is it easier than illustrator? Cause illustrator is a b@#$% to learn >.< It'd help me understand the printing process better too Smile

I don't get the SWOPs and stuff mostly. That's where I get lost. Their file transferal process. I think it's the colour language the printer gets >.>

Anthony speaks the truth. I think you just need to pay attention mostly to the bleed and gutter. Bleed is important for all book formats, but the gutter will need consideration if you decide to go with glue or perfect bind.

And CMYK is the proper colour profile to use for printing since it covers a broader colour range, meaning your printed image will be more accurate to the original. That's not to say you can't use RGB, though. RGB comes out just fine from my experience, so if you're having trouble with CMYK files being too big or something, you can probably settle with RGB.

And yeah, InDesign is actually a lot simpler than Illustrator. There aren't that many tools you need to know to make a book with InDesign, and what few tools you do need to know are very simple and straightforward.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:35 pm

cyberkun wrote:

Was there a Sword of Sin book this year?

No, there wasn't a new Sword of Sin book this year.

Things happened and we were not able to produce it.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:16 pm

Des wrote:

Arkillian wrote:

Des wrote:

Arkillian wrote:

Sweet

I hope I do know most of it cause printers talk in a different language with bleeds and bindings and SLRs and stuff >.< I just raise my hands and go "Make it so!" XD

Haha if you know what they all mean, it should be pretty straight forward. There's no a whole lot to it really.

Might pay to know a little about InDesign as well, though (if you haven't already, that is); since these printers sometimes request for a package file instead of just straight PDF. It's a great program for making books as well, given it doesn't... ugh, bad memories. i'll stop there.

I have In Design. Is it hard to learn? ^^; Like... is it easier than illustrator? Cause illustrator is a b@#$% to learn >.< It'd help me understand the printing process better too Smile

I don't get the SWOPs and stuff mostly. That's where I get lost. Their file transferal process. I think it's the colour language the printer gets >.>

Anthony speaks the truth. I think you just need to pay attention mostly to the bleed and gutter. Bleed is important for all book formats, but the gutter will need consideration if you decide to go with glue or perfect bind.

And CMYK is the proper colour profile to use for printing since it covers a broader colour range, meaning your printed image will be more accurate to the original. That's not to say you can't use RGB, though. RGB comes out just fine from my experience, so if you're having trouble with CMYK files being too big or something, you can probably settle with RGB.

And yeah, InDesign is actually a lot simpler than Illustrator. There aren't that many tools you need to know to make a book with InDesign, and what few tools you do need to know are very simple and straightforward.

Oh- this much I understand Smile

I need to be adding far more than 4mm to my bleeds next time, but I know what bleed and CMYK is Smile

I did ALOT of research out there cause noone could explain it to me, but I've found out the limitations of CMYK and why the screen doesn't show what will be printed (Cause it's RGB simulating CMYK and it may not be calibrated right) the limitations of LCD screens (Urgh), and... yeah. I've never used In Design though. IF I give it to the publisher in InDesign that may make the experience easier Smile

I'll have a play with it at some point and try it out ^^

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:36 pm

For sure. it'll make life easier.

I might actually make a rough and ready starters guide later and post it on the blog. Just to get the ball rolling for anyone interested in making books in InDesign.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:35 pm

Des wrote:

For sure. it'll make life easier.

I might actually make a rough and ready starters guide later and post it on the blog. Just to get the ball rolling for anyone interested in making books in InDesign.

Thanks for sharing in advance, Des.
This template will be a useful reference for any future production.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:28 pm

Sorry for the delay, I've been crazy busy at work.

Any who, here's some of what I took.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/matsucheba/sets/72157624599367246/

Feel free to link to it.

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Matt wrote:

Sorry for the delay, I've been crazy busy at work.

Any who, here's some of what I took.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/matsucheba/sets/72157624599367246/

Feel free to link to it.

You hide the pantsu shot didnt you???
Wink

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arrex wrote:

You hide the pantsu shot didnt you???
Wink

I saw that Suigintou molestation shot, you pervert!